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		<title>By: maitiu O'Fathaigh</title>
		<link>http://malachiodoherty.com/2009/05/27/the-christian-brothers-should-be-banned-and-their-property-impounded/#comment-2238</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maitiu O'Fathaigh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Sean,

Just read your contribution to the Site, and I am most surprised.,  Have you not been reading the Australian Newspapers over the years, they are a very fine source of information.,   I have been in your country many times and Like Ireland and the rest of the World, these &#039;&#039;Crazy People were allowed to Look after Orphans, and teach school the World Over,  -  Hiding under the Banner of the Catholic Church, Great Hiding Place for all sorts who Gravitate to Professions which give them access to our weakest.,

I only met one CB who really was a Gentleman,  Each and every other one was a Deviant., -  Thats my Story.

Count yourself lucky that you had&#039;nt my upbringing, and that yours was pretty Rosy.,   Good Luck,

Maitiu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sean,</p>
<p>Just read your contribution to the Site, and I am most surprised.,  Have you not been reading the Australian Newspapers over the years, they are a very fine source of information.,   I have been in your country many times and Like Ireland and the rest of the World, these &#8221;Crazy People were allowed to Look after Orphans, and teach school the World Over,  &#8211;  Hiding under the Banner of the Catholic Church, Great Hiding Place for all sorts who Gravitate to Professions which give them access to our weakest.,</p>
<p>I only met one CB who really was a Gentleman,  Each and every other one was a Deviant., &#8211;  Thats my Story.</p>
<p>Count yourself lucky that you had&#8217;nt my upbringing, and that yours was pretty Rosy.,   Good Luck,</p>
<p>Maitiu</p>
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		<title>By: barrycash@uwclub.net</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 08:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well Sean, they really scrambled your brain didn&#039;t they?

They may have started out with the laudable intention of providing education to the poor but they degenerated into something reprehensible. Even where there was no sexual abuse children were routinely physicaly and mentally abused by these men, whilst those in charge allowed it to happen.

By the way I&#039;m English and went to one of their schools in England.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Sean, they really scrambled your brain didn&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>They may have started out with the laudable intention of providing education to the poor but they degenerated into something reprehensible. Even where there was no sexual abuse children were routinely physicaly and mentally abused by these men, whilst those in charge allowed it to happen.</p>
<p>By the way I&#8217;m English and went to one of their schools in England.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Malachi,
Fuck you and your biased website. I was educated by the Christian Brothers in Australia and can vouch for their dedication and commitment to a cost-effective and accessible education, especially for working class people. Remember they are paid a mere stipend and their ethos is very much about accessible educated - and they put this in practice in a way that no other religious-affiliated schools do. Of course there are some who were sex abuses. However, we are more at risk from being sodomised by an uncle or other family relation, than by any clergy [cf. Stanford University Study on Catholic sex abuse. Sex abuses by ministers of the Southern Baptist church is high in frequency than Catholic clergy. Are Southern Baptist clergy married?…hmmm].
What pisses me off though, is that some Irish guy with the pathetically anglicised name &#039;Malachi&#039; [why don’t you use the correct Ghaelige form, Mealsechlainn? Pathetic wimp] betrays his Catholic forebears and their massive contribution to Australia and the US where it was the Catholic church (and only the Catholic Church) that educated you people - gave them a right kick in the arsehole - and delivered them respectability and social mobility. Previous to this, the middles classes in Australia and US regarded you Irish as stupid, backward and like dogs. You can thank the Catholic church for giving you subsidised education and a mechanism in which to achieve social mobility and integration. 
You traitor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malachi,<br />
Fuck you and your biased website. I was educated by the Christian Brothers in Australia and can vouch for their dedication and commitment to a cost-effective and accessible education, especially for working class people. Remember they are paid a mere stipend and their ethos is very much about accessible educated &#8211; and they put this in practice in a way that no other religious-affiliated schools do. Of course there are some who were sex abuses. However, we are more at risk from being sodomised by an uncle or other family relation, than by any clergy [cf. Stanford University Study on Catholic sex abuse. Sex abuses by ministers of the Southern Baptist church is high in frequency than Catholic clergy. Are Southern Baptist clergy married?…hmmm].<br />
What pisses me off though, is that some Irish guy with the pathetically anglicised name &#8216;Malachi&#8217; [why don’t you use the correct Ghaelige form, Mealsechlainn? Pathetic wimp] betrays his Catholic forebears and their massive contribution to Australia and the US where it was the Catholic church (and only the Catholic Church) that educated you people &#8211; gave them a right kick in the arsehole &#8211; and delivered them respectability and social mobility. Previous to this, the middles classes in Australia and US regarded you Irish as stupid, backward and like dogs. You can thank the Catholic church for giving you subsidised education and a mechanism in which to achieve social mobility and integration.<br />
You traitor.</p>
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		<title>By: maitiu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maitiu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree Ravindra, you sum them up well with the above Psychological profile.  Anyway better times now for School Kids and thats how it should have been in the past.


Hope Things are Good on the Indian Continent,  I will go back there one day and catch up,

Maitiu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Ravindra, you sum them up well with the above Psychological profile.  Anyway better times now for School Kids and thats how it should have been in the past.</p>
<p>Hope Things are Good on the Indian Continent,  I will go back there one day and catch up,</p>
<p>Maitiu</p>
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		<title>By: Ravindra K. Banthia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ravindra K. Banthia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[maitiu,

I agree with you to the extent already stated by me in the last post

“Some who joined the CB, did so,  because it was their only salvation.

Obviously, the CB were not very selective about who they took in.”

My previous post was too long, so I left out a few things.

1. By and large, they were a frustrated lot.

2. They openly indulged in favoritism, generally based on the status of their parents.

3. They openly showed their disdain towards the Indian culture (of course there were exceptions, as mentioned in  2.)

4. At least in my days, they were usually good in English Literature, music and sports.

5. They were pretty bad in Math, Physics and Chemistry. Local teachers had to used for these subjects.
 
If fact, the nutty Principal, referred to in the previous post, made the fatal error of trying to teach us math in class XI.

That left him horribly exposed to ridicule. Too often, I had 
to point out a better solution.

6. For those of us who got into the prized institutes/colleges, the credit is largely due to the local teachers. 

I am particularly indebted to Mrs. Lyall and Mr. Pyarelal Shah.

7. The saying “Spare the rod …” was extended to the point of sadism.

8. They were fiercely protective of their fellow Brothers, even those who erred grossly.

To expound on the second point, they were favorably inclined towards parents who 

a) were Christians

b) held important bureaucratic or political posts especially toward royalty.

c) led a westernized life style

There were exceptions like Br. Foley and Br. Brendan MacCarthaigh.

Ravindra]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maitiu,</p>
<p>I agree with you to the extent already stated by me in the last post</p>
<p>“Some who joined the CB, did so,  because it was their only salvation.</p>
<p>Obviously, the CB were not very selective about who they took in.”</p>
<p>My previous post was too long, so I left out a few things.</p>
<p>1. By and large, they were a frustrated lot.</p>
<p>2. They openly indulged in favoritism, generally based on the status of their parents.</p>
<p>3. They openly showed their disdain towards the Indian culture (of course there were exceptions, as mentioned in  2.)</p>
<p>4. At least in my days, they were usually good in English Literature, music and sports.</p>
<p>5. They were pretty bad in Math, Physics and Chemistry. Local teachers had to used for these subjects.</p>
<p>If fact, the nutty Principal, referred to in the previous post, made the fatal error of trying to teach us math in class XI.</p>
<p>That left him horribly exposed to ridicule. Too often, I had<br />
to point out a better solution.</p>
<p>6. For those of us who got into the prized institutes/colleges, the credit is largely due to the local teachers. </p>
<p>I am particularly indebted to Mrs. Lyall and Mr. Pyarelal Shah.</p>
<p>7. The saying “Spare the rod …” was extended to the point of sadism.</p>
<p>8. They were fiercely protective of their fellow Brothers, even those who erred grossly.</p>
<p>To expound on the second point, they were favorably inclined towards parents who </p>
<p>a) were Christians</p>
<p>b) held important bureaucratic or political posts especially toward royalty.</p>
<p>c) led a westernized life style</p>
<p>There were exceptions like Br. Foley and Br. Brendan MacCarthaigh.</p>
<p>Ravindra</p>
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		<title>By: maitiu</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ravindra,

I never met any of the Gifted ones, only the Nutters and the Molesters,  usually they came as one and the same person,  Two in one so to speak.  Are there many of them left in India in these times ?  I spent one year in India way way back in 1965 and enjoyed it immensely.  I got back again some years later but only on a short visit.  Calcutta Madras and Bombay were pretty Cool, but not in the todays meaning of the word.

Cheers,.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ravindra,</p>
<p>I never met any of the Gifted ones, only the Nutters and the Molesters,  usually they came as one and the same person,  Two in one so to speak.  Are there many of them left in India in these times ?  I spent one year in India way way back in 1965 and enjoyed it immensely.  I got back again some years later but only on a short visit.  Calcutta Madras and Bombay were pretty Cool, but not in the todays meaning of the word.</p>
<p>Cheers,.</p>
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		<title>By: maitiu</title>
		<link>http://malachiodoherty.com/2009/05/27/the-christian-brothers-should-be-banned-and-their-property-impounded/#comment-1486</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maitiu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ravindra,

Suggest you have a look at another site called  &#039;&#039; Bock the Robber &#039;&#039; and type in  Memories of a Violent Teacher on the top Right search box.,

Happy Reading

maitiu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ravindra,</p>
<p>Suggest you have a look at another site called  &#8221; Bock the Robber &#8221; and type in  Memories of a Violent Teacher on the top Right search box.,</p>
<p>Happy Reading</p>
<p>maitiu</p>
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		<title>By: Ravindra K. Banthia</title>
		<link>http://malachiodoherty.com/2009/05/27/the-christian-brothers-should-be-banned-and-their-property-impounded/#comment-1483</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ravindra K. Banthia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Christian Brothers were a odd lot.

Some were gifted, some were mere ornamentation, and some  were nut cases.

Some who joined the CB, did so,  because it was their only salvation.

Obviously, the CB were not very selective about who they took in.

Most of the people defending the CBs, are actually defending their own prestige.

If there were any sexual aberrations at our time, we were not openly aware of them.

There were some whispers, but they could have been just that.

I won’t take any names here, but I lost a year because  a fellow classmate accidentally pulled down a lamp shade. 

His intention was to take the bulb out, shake it to break the filament.

He was standing on a rolled up mattress, to reach the lamp shade.

He lost his balance, and the shade came down.

All of us, the class XI guys,  were horrified. 

The consequences could be terrible, because the Principal was a nut case.

I suggested that we just leave the shade on the floor and feign ignorance. 

Unfortunately, the majority was of the opinion that the lamp shade should be thrown out of bounds.

The idiot who brought down the shade, was too scared to go out of the dorm to the sheds at night.

So I accompanied him. The lampshade was dispatched from a door way in the sheds, in the near proximity of the boiler.

What ensued was a witch-hunt. The idiot and I were expelled.  That was just before our SC exams.

You want to verify this ?

Talk to Br. Brendan MacCarthaigh, who is presently at St. Joseph’s, Kolkata.

The loss of a year, was bad enough; the rumors that went around were devastating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christian Brothers were a odd lot.</p>
<p>Some were gifted, some were mere ornamentation, and some  were nut cases.</p>
<p>Some who joined the CB, did so,  because it was their only salvation.</p>
<p>Obviously, the CB were not very selective about who they took in.</p>
<p>Most of the people defending the CBs, are actually defending their own prestige.</p>
<p>If there were any sexual aberrations at our time, we were not openly aware of them.</p>
<p>There were some whispers, but they could have been just that.</p>
<p>I won’t take any names here, but I lost a year because  a fellow classmate accidentally pulled down a lamp shade. </p>
<p>His intention was to take the bulb out, shake it to break the filament.</p>
<p>He was standing on a rolled up mattress, to reach the lamp shade.</p>
<p>He lost his balance, and the shade came down.</p>
<p>All of us, the class XI guys,  were horrified. </p>
<p>The consequences could be terrible, because the Principal was a nut case.</p>
<p>I suggested that we just leave the shade on the floor and feign ignorance. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, the majority was of the opinion that the lamp shade should be thrown out of bounds.</p>
<p>The idiot who brought down the shade, was too scared to go out of the dorm to the sheds at night.</p>
<p>So I accompanied him. The lampshade was dispatched from a door way in the sheds, in the near proximity of the boiler.</p>
<p>What ensued was a witch-hunt. The idiot and I were expelled.  That was just before our SC exams.</p>
<p>You want to verify this ?</p>
<p>Talk to Br. Brendan MacCarthaigh, who is presently at St. Joseph’s, Kolkata.</p>
<p>The loss of a year, was bad enough; the rumors that went around were devastating.</p>
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		<title>By: maitiu O'Fathaigh</title>
		<link>http://malachiodoherty.com/2009/05/27/the-christian-brothers-should-be-banned-and-their-property-impounded/#comment-1437</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a Little Addendum to my previous post.,  However and in spite ot the CB&#039;s (cowardly B&#039;s)  I wound up in the West German Merchant Navy as an Officer.  This in a strange way opened up another thinking process to my new life-style.  Had not &#039;&#039; the Germans been pretty Cruel to the Jews,&#039;&#039; the Concentration Camps, the aphorent treatment, hundreds of thousands of deaths, deportations Gas Chambers,  etc etc., ? So here was O&#039;Fathaigh sitting out on Deck on a daily basis having Cool Drinks, Gin, Beers, etc., with the Kapitain, Chief Officer (ex Submarine Commander) and Chief Engineer same background as were others. the latters in laws were now House Keepers to Karl Doinetz who by then was released from Spandau Jail.  So looking back in hindsight, these ordinary guys were all taken In by &#039;&#039;Uncle Adolf&#039;&#039; , all nice guys all Catholics  following this &#039;&#039; Madman&#039;&#039; also Hoodwinked by the &#039;POMP AND CEREMONY&#039;., that we here in Ireland experienced in the 50s.   &#039;&#039; EVAIL PREVAILS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING&#039;&#039;

Cheers/ Maitiu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a Little Addendum to my previous post.,  However and in spite ot the CB&#8217;s (cowardly B&#8217;s)  I wound up in the West German Merchant Navy as an Officer.  This in a strange way opened up another thinking process to my new life-style.  Had not &#8221; the Germans been pretty Cruel to the Jews,&#8221; the Concentration Camps, the aphorent treatment, hundreds of thousands of deaths, deportations Gas Chambers,  etc etc., ? So here was O&#8217;Fathaigh sitting out on Deck on a daily basis having Cool Drinks, Gin, Beers, etc., with the Kapitain, Chief Officer (ex Submarine Commander) and Chief Engineer same background as were others. the latters in laws were now House Keepers to Karl Doinetz who by then was released from Spandau Jail.  So looking back in hindsight, these ordinary guys were all taken In by &#8221;Uncle Adolf&#8221; , all nice guys all Catholics  following this &#8221; Madman&#8221; also Hoodwinked by the &#8216;POMP AND CEREMONY&#8217;., that we here in Ireland experienced in the 50s.   &#8221; EVAIL PREVAILS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING&#8221;</p>
<p>Cheers/ Maitiu</p>
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		<title>By: maitiu O'fathaigh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maitiu O'fathaigh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 15:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ref; Irish Christian Brothers and replies since my post.,  I was at CBS Creagh lane until the end of 1957,ending 5 years of daily torture at their hands.,  A Brother from this same school has since gone to prison for his conduct. Others are hoping the Knock on the Door wont come.  and others escaped by doing us all a favour and died before the law caught up with them.  They ruined so many of my friends lives, many turned out as drunks, Druggies, Suicides etc.,  and society wonders why ?  these were just ordinary young cheerful school-boys who were so unlucky to have been faced with these overwhelming over Zeelous Monsters.

LEST WE FORGET]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ref; Irish Christian Brothers and replies since my post.,  I was at CBS Creagh lane until the end of 1957,ending 5 years of daily torture at their hands.,  A Brother from this same school has since gone to prison for his conduct. Others are hoping the Knock on the Door wont come.  and others escaped by doing us all a favour and died before the law caught up with them.  They ruined so many of my friends lives, many turned out as drunks, Druggies, Suicides etc.,  and society wonders why ?  these were just ordinary young cheerful school-boys who were so unlucky to have been faced with these overwhelming over Zeelous Monsters.</p>
<p>LEST WE FORGET</p>
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